Re: Learning to humiliate

Thanks both for contributing.
This brings us back to those negotiated rules and the cuck doesn’t it. It may be the case that the cuck learns to sublimate their ego, to bend it to their mistress’s demands and through her to those of the dominant male. It is precisely this process of learning and gradual submission (through humiliation amongst other things) that represent a journey in the cuckold lifestyle. Now there arises a debate. It may be that what Mat describes as cuckold dignity is a protemp resistance and it reflects where he is at now, exploring the lifestyle. After all, the male has been socialized to be egoistic and territorial. But it may instead be a relationship thing-something that suits the couple. Picture a very dominant female and a potentially very submissive cuck (inclinations). Here humiliation looms large and is rather strong. In a relationship where the female is only moderately dominant by instinct and the male only modestly submissive, then humiliation is more measured and the cuck says, ‘so far and no more!’ The couple journey-I’d suggest Mat that what you feel now could change, but that this depends too on how your lady changes and how you negotiate that. Only a stupid bull would not listen to, learn about and try to work with that change. As i’ve posted elsewhere, a good bull is one who enjoys the journeying exploration, what the couple explore as well as the immediate pleasures of servicing a beautiful woman.

Now buttercup’s point about discipline and punishment. Whether something like spanking (or enforced panty wearing etc) represents a punishment might depend on the extent that it humiliates-that is forces the cuck to downgrade his estimation of his own worth. Something that doesn’t touch his self esteem, despite being painful at the time, might not represent punishment. He is not ritually submitting, sublimating his ego. It is then that a cuckoldress might wonder whether to spank is the right thing to do. Experienced hotwives rarely stick with one form of discipline, they ring the changes and keep the cuck in a insecure state (back to the on the edge stuff above!). It is this uncertainty, this submission, to something that might seem a punishment but might seem a reward that is so thrilling to cucks. When I talked with my women about this they all say that its important to remain ‘on your toes’ to keep the cuck guessing. The women who have been good at that humiliate regularly and within the broadest possible bounds. They don’t allow the cuck to tie down rules too tight. Come back though with thoughts-anyone else with experiences or ideas?