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    • #30917
      Anonymous

        I know this is going to sound weird but I am struggling with one aspect of this cuckolding situation and that is watching my wife’s ex lick and eat our her pussy. Watching my wife suck his cock, watching him suck and fondle my wife’s tits and nipples and watching him penetrate her cunt and fuck and cum in her do not upset me like it does when I see him spread her legs and put his mouth and tongue on her clit and pussy. There is something so intimate about that act that it really upsets me. Clearly my wife loves it when he does it as she moans quite loudly and her body tenses and squirms. I watch as she is lost in the sexual pleasure, her eyes closed, her hands exploring and grabbing her tits, sometimes grabbing his head as he tongue fucks her and sucks on her clit and then that moment when she reaches her orgasm and cries out, trying to stop his sucking and licking but holding his head down on herself. That intense stop but don’t stop eating her. Sometimes I just have to turn away when he is going down on her and once I just walked out of the room until I heard her cum. Watching them having sex always makes me hard except when he is going down on her. I have realized I lose my erection, my cock just hanging down over my balls, my balls no longer pulled close to my body. I guess I feel lost, betrayed, if that makes sense.

      • #30922
        stonemtncouple

          I understand your feelings. Some feel this way when watching their wife in a deep passionate kiss.
          My advice is to keep watching, focus on her pleasure and joy, maybe you kiss her mouth while he is eating her pussy. Participating even if just a kiss helps me feel connected to her and keeps me horny and enjoying the scene.

          • #30942
            Anonymous

              Thanks, sounds like good advice. It is harder to watch them having sex then when I am participating in some aspect. Kissing her does sound like a good way for me to participate so I am not focusing on the oral act that upsets me.

          • #31109
            Anonymous

              As I mentioned I gave my wife and her ex a weekend alone in their original honeymoon suite, so they could relive their honeymoon, alone together, their wedding night. I helped my wife pack for the weekend, long sexy negligee that was sheer to show off her naked body, clingy to show off her tits and nipples, a second one, short that barely covered her ass, other sexy clothes. No bra or panties. She was going to pack some but I took them out of her hands and said I did not think she would be needing them. Packed, I carried her small suitcase downstairs and put it by the front door. We waited for his arrival. I could tell my wife was nervous like a girl on a first date (amazing how such things still thrill even when there has been plenty of sex already, in this case many years of sex and even kids). I was anxious myself, restless, all kinds of thoughts running through my head. Sexual ones of course, finding myself hard. But also those misgiving thoughts, was this a mistake, would I regret it, was I opening up a door I could not shut (yes yes I already opened up a door, I know). Would I go out of my mind not knowing what was happening between them, even though I could guess. As we waited, only once did my wife ask me if I was really okay with this. I smiled and told her I was and that I wanted to give this to her, that I loved her so much, and I wanted her to enjoy herself. To give in to hers and his desires. He knocked and I went to answer the door. He was handsome as usual, smiling nervously I think, and he shook my hand. I invited him in where my wife greeted him with a kiss and a hug. I watched and then picked up her suitcase, saying they should be on there way. I handed him the suitcase, he laughed and said he doubted she would need anything in it. She gave him a love smack on the arm. Was that a giggle from my wife. I watched as he touched his hand to the small of her back, guiding her out the door. She turned to me and said I love you. I told her I loved her as I watched him touching her, his hand sliding down to her ass. As a true gentlemen, he opened the door for her, closed it when she got in, popped the trunk to put her suitcase in. Closing the trunk he looked back at me and he thanked me. I will take care of her for us he said. “For us.” He was more a part of our lives everyday and I just gave him more access. And yes I knew he would take care of her, I could swear I could see his erection in his pants. As it should be right, after all it was a recreation of their wedding. Sex happened then for sure, it was going to happen again now. I stood there, cock hard, watching him get in the car with my wife, his ex-wife, and then watched them drive off. I stood there for awhile, even after I could no longer see his car. Even though I was excited I felt sick. It came over me suddenly. I had to sit down. I found myself crying,, fuck fuck fuck, what had I done. I thought for a moment of calling my wife, telling her to turn around, come home to me, but I could not, would not do that. It was my gift and I had to let her (him) enjoy it. It was the beginning of a very emotional weekend for me.

            • #31153
              Anonymous

                Update: I have not yet written about the outcome of my Christmas gift to my wife and her ex because, one, I do not know what all happened and, two, I am upset about not only that but something that was said.

                Late in the day on Sunday, my wife and her ex arrived home. Clearly they went to have lunch together as I know check out was at 11 am. I watched them get out of the car, her ex the perfect gentlemen (at least outside of the bedroom) open her door. My wife was smiling and she touched his arm as she straightened up getting out. He closed the door and there was his hand touching the small of her back, guiding her to the front door. I opened it to greet them and they both said hello came into the house. I hope you both had a good time I said, which he replied it was great. I leaned forward to kiss my wife and she gave me her cheek which I kissed as she come into the house. I shook his hand, feeling its warm, as I am sure my wife did all over her body. As we entered the kitchen, I asked him if he wanted a beer but he said he had to get going to pick up their kids from his parent’s house. There was an awkward silence but he turned to leave. As he walked towards the front door my wife said that she would walk him out. Brushing past me, she took his arm, leaning into him. I stayed back in the kitchen but I could clearly see and hear them. He kissed her and she clearly kissed him. When the kiss ended I could hear my wife whispering, but I could make out what she said. She told him she loved him and I heard him tell her he loved her. My heart sank, fuck, I could not believe it, but what the fuck was I expecting?? I helped them recreate their wedding night. Of course those memories were full of love (and sex).

                I did not say anything and my wife went upstairs. Later I carried up her suitcase. That night as we were getting ready for bed, I asked her how it was this past weekend. She said it was fun. I asked her if she had a good time hoping for more but she just said she did. Finally I asked her if she was going to tell me anything that happened and she said “not tonight”. and got into bed. I wanted sex but I could tell that was not going to happen. I guess that made sense, she had a honeymoon with her ex, their lovemaking was still fresh. There probably was still traces of his semen in her cunt as I am sure they fucked this morning. I let it go. The next day I tried to bring up the subject, to hear about their sexual adventures, but all my wife said was she did not want to talk about it. Needless to say I was pissed and disappointed. And I could not stop thinking of them kissing by the front door and the fact they both said they loved each other.

              • #31190
                Anonymous

                  Thanks for sharing your story. This is a fantasy of mine – that she sees her ex and they have a great relationship, sex, and even to the point of loving. It is not for everyone but I would much rather another man loved my wife than just fucked her. Of course there is the chance of losing her… that is what makes it intense. Have u heard more? My wife shares all… that would be the part that would be hard for me…if she didn’t.

                  • #31194
                    Anonymous

                      I appreciate your response. Writing down this experience has helped me along the way and the responses I have received have given me perspective on what I am going through, my drive to be a cuckold and some guidance on how to handle what has been happening in my marriage, my sex life and my life.
                      My wife has not yet shared the things that happened when she and her ex spent the time at the hotel. I know there was sex, there is no doubt about it, that he fucked her, probably many times. I am sure he went down on her and she sucked his cock. It does hurt that she will not tell me about it. I gave her this gift and I think she should share what the experience was like, what they did and how often. I have asked once again and she said it does not matter. I will try to get it out of him. I think I will contact him.
                      Does your wife fuck other men?

                  • #31195
                    Anonymous

                      Yes, try the route of getting him to tell you details. He may like to tell you and make you squirm but he may not want to tell you to follow her lead. Yes, my wife has multiple BFs – the ones that make love to her or I know she is very close to make it far more intense

                      • #31210
                        Anonymous

                          Wow, multiple BFs. I have a hard enough time with my wife fucking just one guy. I need to learn from you. I am going to ask her ex for the details, hopefully he will tell me. It is driving me crazy not knowing.

                      • #31335
                        4DecadeCuck

                          My wife has had multiple BFs, but her current, as she says, is the only man she wants . . . and she is IN love with him. I have to say that they make a good looking couple, and he is an amazing lover. When my wife told me that she wanted her BF to move in with us, she asked if I would be okay with him being her primary and me being her number 2. I said yes.

                          This is a lifestyle that is not for the faint hearted.

                          • #31359
                            Anonymous

                              You are so correct. Anyone thinking of entering into this lifestyle has to understand what it means emotionally and can handle it. It was not something I ever thought about and would have never thought I would encourage. It still is hard for me but I try to focus on the positive and the sexual aspect.

                          • #31388
                            Voyeurcuck

                              Dan, I feel with you man. This is a really tough situation, and I wonder why you put yourself in such a situation?

                              I can easily follow the thrill in your wife having sex with her ex. And even watching them together, but the setup with a trip to their honeymoon hotel is way more than most cuckold relationships can handle.

                              You are clearly playing with your emotions but with your wife and her ex’s too. And even there is a reason they are ex today, there is a reason – probably a lots of reasons – they got married too. Now you gave them all the good reasons again, forgetting about the bad ones. And further more you broke the intimacy between you and your wife by letting her go on that trip, and apparently she’s now having the intimacy with her ex instead of you?

                              I’m sorry, but I think there’s a good risk you would end as her ex after this.

                              • #31466
                                Anonymous

                                  I hope you prediction does not come true, but I can see you point. Why am I putting myself through this? Good question, something I have been asking myself. I never wanted to be here. I was happily married, or so I thought, to my first wife, with two kids, a house, a career, friends, all of the things many of us want. If that had continued I would not be where I am today and really would not have thought or or understood the cuckold lifestyle. But my first wife made me a cuckold, I just did not know it. For two years or so she was fucking another guy. Our marriage ended when they decided to get her pregnant and she broke the news to me. I know this is what set me down this path. I obsessed about their fucking until I realized I wanted to see it, to experience another man fucking my wife. Without writing a dissertation on why I am putting myself through this, I think I feel like it is what I deserve. I was not a good enough lover for my first wife, another man was. He took what I had. I think I tried to fight to keep my first marriage but I probably did not or it was just too late. Yes there was a another man’s kid growing in my wife, but I could have accepted it. Or at least I think I could have. The feeling of being submissive to another man sexual prowess is apparently what I crave. I do not understand it, but it is what it is.

                              • #31477
                                Voyeurcuck

                                  I see what you mean, or at least I think I know some of your thought patterns bringing you to where you are today.
                                  To some extend I have been through some of the same, have always been attracted to slutty women who made – or could have made – me cuckold. I married quite the opposite but became obsessed with bringing her hidden slut to life. Which I did, but that’s another story.
                                  What I think tough is the old saying “two wrongs don’t make one right” and this is exactly where you are heading now, on the path to repeat ending your second marriage same way as the first one ended.
                                  It may be sexually rewarding to you, the thrill about another stronger male taking your wife from you, but the whole idea about cuckolding is the emotional bond in the marriage remains. And that seems to have gone too?
                                  I know there’s probably as many ways to live out cuckolding as there are cuckold couples, but your way really seems to be borderline to simple cheating or breaking up. I could not live it out the way you did, I always needs to know and feel assured it’s just a game and reclaiming my wife is a mandatory thing for me. But again, different persons, different habits.
                                  It may be too late, but if I was you I would have called for a “time out” with your wife and see what she says. At a point sooner or late she has to choose to go back to her ex or stay with you.
                                  I hope she understands how unique you are as husband and what great possibilities she will get staying with you. But to do so, she needs to stop seeing her ex at least sexually (seems from your story they have kids together, so a complete cut may not be possible?
                                  I wish you all the best

                                  • #31488
                                    Leera

                                      I agree with the reclaiming of your wife is mandatory. From what I have read, it seems like there are different levels and types of cuckolds.Some can be the ultimate sub of just having his wife do everything she wants while some are more possessive than others.

                                      Bottomline is it should strengthen the love with each other.

                                      Thank you for sharing your story. I emphathized with you. I pray you and your wife will work it out.

                                  • #31491
                                    Voyeurcuck

                                      Okay Donald, then we know that’s not a viable way out 😉

                                    • #31493
                                      j0hnny

                                        Donald, why are you trying to hijack this thread?
                                        This is Dan Cs sincere effort to get advice from the community.
                                        Your comment is completely out of context.
                                        If you have issues with your wife that you want to talk about, please start your own thread.
                                        Thank you.

                                        • #31622
                                          Anonymous

                                            Thanks Johnny. I do need the support of this community. No one should ever go into this lifestyle with a lot of thought. I can imagine there can be some emotional stress for the bull, especially if he falls in love with another man’s wife, but it really is very difficult for the cuckold. It is your wife another man has laid claim to and she is a willing participant. It makes you question your masculinity and self-worth.

                                        • #31683
                                          Voyeurcuck

                                            So what happens in your situation Dan? Are you moving along pretending everything is okay or have you had a conversation with your wife?

                                            It’s true words what you write, the cuckold is definitely having most at stake. I had been both Bull and now cockold, and I can say the later role is the hardest (but also most rewarding) one.

                                          • #32185
                                            Anonymous

                                              So it has been awhile since I last posted as I am dealing with everything. Not sure where it will all lead but trying to stay positive, committed to this lifestyle and willing to learn to be accepting and supportive, not only for my wife, but her ex-husband. As I left off, my gift of a weekend away for my wife and her ex-husband to relive their wedding night did not end as I had expected and my wife’s decision not to tell me any details not only upset me but had me worried, especially after I overheard her tell him she loved him when left our house after dropping her off. Paranoia definitely set in. So it took me away to go see him to find out what I could. I had to know. As I gather my thoughts together, I will update my story.

                                            • #32186
                                              Anonymous

                                                In no particular order I will document what I found out about my wife and her ex-husband’s weekend reliving their honeymoon. I may need to stop and come back to this as I find myself getting emotional.
                                                So my wife would not tell me what all transpired even though I asked a few times, giving her space and time. Therefore I went to see her ex. At first he did not want to tell me but I offered to suck him off if he would. He agreed and I was on my knees, taking his big cock in my mouth and when he was ready to come he held my head so I could not get his cock out of my mouth and he came in my mouth. He told me to swallow if I wanted to know everything. Without thinking about I swallowed.

                                                Of course they fucked, several times. They took another man into their bed. A young guy who was more than happy to fuck a cunt. They told him they were married when they picked him up in the hotel bar. Her ex convinced my wife to go braless and pantyless. He said her nipples were clearly protruding through her blouse. This young guy noticed and was checking out my wife so her ex began fondling her, unbuttoning her blouse and he flashed one of my wife’s tits for him to see. Needless to say he came over to the table and ended up in their room, all were naked and he fucked my wife, bare. And fucked her twice. As much as my cock loved hearing this, my head was not handling it well.
                                                But it got worse. He told me that he stilled loved my wife, his ex-wife, and after he had fucked her he told her he loved her, that he would love to be married to her again. I felt sick hearing this. What did my wife say, I asked. He said she said she loved him too. I still cannot believe he admitted this to me, but he told my wife that he would propose to her if she was willing. I could barely breath. Again what did she say, I needed to know. He said she said that she loved me, her husband, and would not divorce me.
                                                Again it got worse. He told me he wanted another baby with her, even if she stayed married to me. What the fuck, was I reliving my first marriage. What did my wife say??? He said she did not answer only laughed. Fuck, fuck, fuck, what the fuck does that mean?
                                                I really like her ex, I know I have developed a bond with him, sharing sexual experiences makes relationships more intimate. But at the moment I wanted to fucking hit him.
                                                I cannot continue right now, sorry.

                                              • #32201
                                                Anonymous

                                                  Okay, I am a wimp and emotional. I cannot help it, telling this brings back so many emotions for me. But I need to tell someone. So here he is, telling me, the husband, that he wants to impregnate my wife. And my wife says nothing, shouldn’t she have said no?? Just to laugh and not reject this idea. Does she want another baby with him? I heard her tell him she loved him after he brought her home from that weekend. What did that mean? Could just be an emotional moment for my wife, reliving their wedding night, at the same hotel, the same room. That has to be it, right?
                                                  He asked me what I was feeling and I told him I was upset, angry at him for suggesting that he knock her up. Then he asked me that question I did not want him to ask. Why did I want my wife fucked by another man?
                                                  That is the core of this entire experience. I did not know how to answer, but I tried. Maybe I did not feel I was good enough, that I was not a good lover, that I was inferior to other men. I told him that he has a much better body than me, a bigger cock, fucks better, makes my wife cum more easily than I can do. And I admitted to him that I like to see him naked, to see him aroused, his cock in my wife’s mouth (even though that still is difficult for me) his cock fucking her, knowing he is coming in her, to hear him having an orgasm.
                                                  He asked me if I thought I was gay. I know I am not gay, but I admitted that I think I am bi. He laughed and said of course I was bi, I just sucked his cock. I told him I was confused about why I wanted this cuckold lifestyle, but the thought made me horny, watching them having sex turned me on.

                                                  I hate to admit this but I ended up crying, my body shaking from my anguish. He came over to me, held me. I actually felt safe in his arms. My anger towards him was gone.

                                                • #32202
                                                  Anonymous

                                                    I think you screwed it up. He was a bad decision of you for cuckolding. He is manipulative, and dont respect your marriage. So does she. Cuckolding is one thing, destroying marriage is another.

                                                    • #32354
                                                      Anonymous

                                                        I understand what you are saying. But I think things are okay now. Cuckolding is a risk to a marriage, no matter what anyone says. Sexual intimacy can lead to true love or the feeling of true love, no matter who is fucking the wife. I think open communication is very important, but there is no guarantee that the wife will not leave the cuckold husband for the man she is fucking.

                                                    • #32290
                                                      Voyeurcuck

                                                        You really put yourself in a very difficult situation. And beside the obvious thrill of seeing another man fucking your wife, you’re also under her ex spell. Which you seem to like? I must say I’ve had good relationship with the guys fucking my wife too, but more on a peer basis and never like you describe.

                                                        Basically you have two options I think: Either you step up and take back the leadership in your relationship meaning your wife needs to stop seeing her ex. Ideally completely cut the relationship, but as they have kids together that’s not possible, so at least not seeing each other alone. It’s not a cut off the lifestyle, you just need another male who understands and respects your marriage, but you need to pause for a while until you both are ready to play again.

                                                        The other option is to continue letting her ex destroy your marriage. He seems like a player that wants to win your wife back – but for what? -Just to show he’s superior I guess, and then dump her again. Why did they split up the first time? Likelihood they would build a lasting relationship second time is very small IMO, so you just end up breaking your wife’s hard twice: First by divorcing you, second when she gets dumped by her ex.

                                                        The first option may end up in divorce too, the second one for sure ends up bad. So take the chance, go for the first option and best of luck to you and your wife

                                                      • #32355
                                                        Anonymous

                                                          After my conversation with my wife’s ex I knew I needed to have a serious conversation with my wife. On a weekend when her kids were with him and mine were not at our house (even though that seems to be less and less) I told my wife we needed to talk. I told her I had a long conversation with her ex and I knew everything that happened that weekend. I needed to know some things from her. She agreed to answer my questions. I was nervous for what the answers could be so I started slow. Did she enjoy fucking flirting with other guys out in public like she did that weekend? Yes
                                                          Did she like being felt up and showing her tits in that bar, with the guy watching? Yes
                                                          Did she enjoy getting fucked by the young guy with her ex that weekend? Yes
                                                          I knew I had to ask the harder questions.
                                                          When her ex asked her if she would marry him again, what did she say? She said she laughed at him, that she was married to me.
                                                          If she was not married to me, would she consider it? She paused looking at me and said, yes she would have considered it (I felt like she stabbed me in the heart) but she knew it would never work out and she would have said no. (I guess that made me feel a little better.)
                                                          Does she want another baby? She said she does not know for sure, but for now, she does not.
                                                          Would she want his baby? (This was the hardest question for me to ask.) She admitted that was a hard question to answer. She has two beautiful children with him. She knows I really do not want any more kids of my own. Besides, she would prefer that another child would not be a half sibling if she had one with me.
                                                          But what if I decided I wanted a baby with her? She said if she felt like having another child and I wanted one, she would have one with me.
                                                          What about the half sibling thing? She said she loved me and if that is what we both wanted it would be okay. (It made me feel a little better but I had doubts.)
                                                          Why did she only laugh at his suggestion? Why did she not say no? This is where she paused and I could tell she was uncomfortable.
                                                          I need to know I said. Don’t be mad, she said, but it took her by surprise. Here she was naked, they had just fucked, his semen in her. They were reliving their honeymoon. There was a thrill to it, a reminder of the first time they decided to get pregnant. Did she want another baby, did she want him to impregnate her, how could that work?? She just couldn’t respond, she was in shock, so she laughed?
                                                          If he asked her now, what would she say? No
                                                          (Did I believe her? I do but do I think she could change her mind? I am not sure.)
                                                          Do you still want him fucking you, I asked? To continue to be in our sex lives? Yes
                                                          And she asked me the same, did I want to continue with him? There has been advice on here that I should end the relationship with him, that it will destroy our marriage. But inviting another man into our bed, letting him fuck my wife, doesn’t that threaten our marriage? Sex brings intimacy and emotions, especially in a long term relationship.
                                                          So I asked her if she loved him? She said yes, (that was definitely an honest answer). But she said she loved me as her husband, her life partner. She had loved him, married him, had kids with him, things she could not just forget. But the love for him was not the same as the love for me. Yes she realizes that bringing him into our bed that she did still love him and loves being fucked my him, having intimacy with him. But she wants to be with me. If I asked her to stop she would, with no regrets. Did I want this to stop?
                                                          For those who feel differently please don’t be upset, but I told her no, I did not want it to stop. I liked him, I wanted him in our lives and in our bed.

                                                        • #32363
                                                          stonemtncouple

                                                            Its a true Cuckolds dream. To have his wife impregnated by a true Aloha male for the cuck to raise and be reminded if his wifes infidelity the rest of his life! What a dream come true!
                                                            Enjoy the lifestyle. I would personally love this situation! Only better if the Bull would routinely fuck my wife in front of me so she could show just how much in lust she was with him and how much better he satisfied her sexually. Keep me locked up in chastity and enjoy the life. What a dream!

                                                            • #32475
                                                              Anonymous

                                                                I guess it is a true cuckold’s dream and I am sure the bull would love the fact that he impregnated a cuckold’s wife, but not sure in reality it would be a good thing. If it happened, I am sure there are cuckolds who would live with it and raise the kid as their own. Not sure how I would feel about it.

                                                            • #32374
                                                              Voyeurcuck

                                                                Nice to see you had a good conversation with your wife. And from the minutes you post it seems she and you were quite honest.

                                                                To some extend, I understand your wife’s situation too. While you only have emotions for her and sexual pleasure of her fucking her ex, she needs to handle emotions for both him, you and sexual relationships to both of you too. In other words a more complex situation for her than for you in many aspects.

                                                                When she said she was taken by surprise I think you should trust her. She was in a different spot than you, and hormones and lust filled her body while anxious and fear filled yours. And it must be quite hard to be questioned like you did too. I see the same with my wife, if I question her too hard it becomes awkward and misunderstandings occur.

                                                                I think I was one of the guys saying you should drop her ex. It was based on the knowledge I had at that time, and more over the lack of intimacy I saw in your description of your and your wife’s way of handling the situation. The way you just described your conversation with her completely changed my mind, I think this actually could make your relationship stronger.

                                                                Another aspect: She has married her ex but she has divorced him too. I don’t know why, but it seems like she doesn’t want him back. So if you compare risk of her leaving with him or another handsome lover it may actually be more safe to keep her ex. She knows she can’t live with him as husband and wife, and most often women stay strong once they have learned that lesson.

                                                                Let us know how you progress – best of luck to all 3 of you

                                                                • #32474
                                                                  Anonymous

                                                                    Thanks Voyercock. I appreciate your comments and your thoughts. I am happy my wife and I had our conversation and I think it helped both of us. And I am happy I had the conversation with her ex. Since inviting him into our bed I feel like we have developed a relationship and our conversation was important. We had to clear the air and even though I did not like what he said to and asked of my wife, I appreciate his honesty. He could have lied about any part of what happened or what he said or how my wife reacted. But he was honest with me, I know that.
                                                                    I agree with you that I think there is less risk of losing my marriage, my wife, by her fucking her ex then if she had a bf. In chatting with other cuckolds, many of the wives develop emotional feelings for their bfs and even thought the cuckolds seem okay with it, the wife and the bf are the real couple and the cuckold is on the outside looking in. I do not want that. I want my wife to be mine in all aspects, except in the bedroom where she fucks another man. I still want sex with her. And even thought he might be the alpha male in our sexual life, I still want to be her husband in bed.

                                                                • #32496
                                                                  stonemtncouple

                                                                    You might be on the sliding scale of kink leaning more on what many consider a “Stag” instead of a Cuckold. If there are two poles to this kink one being a (Cuckold in a Chastity cage), never able to penetrate his wife, totally subservient to her and her Bull and the other pole on the scale is a (Stag).
                                                                    Most couples into Cuckolding are somewhere in between the two.
                                                                    I fall somewhere in the middle and don’t live as a Cuck 24/7. My wife enjoys dating and spending weekends alone with her Bull while leaving me locked in Chastity for severals days at a time. She will routinely deny me penetrative sex and allow me eat her cum filled pussy while still caged as my only reward. This happens maybe one week a month more or less. The rest of the time we fuck and live a vanilla life.

                                                                    I consider Stag/Vixen or Stag Hotwife version more where the Stag still has full penetration sex with his wife and is the superior male in her life even sexually to her FWB or Bulls. Her promiscuity adds to the marriage sex-life and does not become the center of their marital sex-life.

                                                                    Thats just my opinion anyway.

                                                                    • #32497
                                                                      Anonymous

                                                                        Wow, I have never thought of that concept and never heard of the term Stag. I do fuck my wife, even when we are with him. And the idea of being caged, I have thought about it, but it is not something that has come up and I am not sure I want to be caged. There does seem to be varying degrees of being a cuckold, with many husband becoming like a sissy or some could even call it a faggot to the bull. Their male sexuality cut off completely or denied. I know I am a cuckold in the sense that another man is fucking my wife, but I was probably more of a cuckold when I was married to my first wife since I had no say in the matter and I did not even know she was taking another cock in her cunt. The situation I am in now is of my own choosing since I initiated it. Yes I get off watching my wife take the cock of another man, I can admit that now, but I also enjoy being part of the sexual experience.

                                                                      • #32541
                                                                        Luvr

                                                                          From my perspective, the trait that defines a husband as a cuckold, or not, is his level of authority and direction within what is being practiced. If the husband is actively directing the sharing as the dominant sexual partner, then the argument that he’s a Dom or ‘stag’ is appropriate. If he’s simply passive and doesn’t want to be considered a ‘cuckold’ because it hurts his ego, well, wear the shoe because it fits.

                                                                          A stag/hotwife relationship is what I refer to as a hotwife marriage instead of a cuckold marriage.

                                                                          Essentially all couples start out as a hotwife marriage because a cuckold marriage is defined by the exploration of the empowerment and submission the inclusion of a male into the marriage creates and develops.

                                                                          A hotwife couple (or stag and vixen) are generally ‘hobbyists’ and dabbling at the edges where they are emotionally ‘safe’.

                                                                          A cuckold marriage has gone beyond the threshold to allow themselves the deeper experience when intellectual and emotional boundaries are exercised and expanded.

                                                                          Clearly, @submissivemale is a cuckold and he should be proud of arriving at this point. I do believe he needs to assert himself enough to ensure the health of his marriage because when allowed to come between a couple rather than extend their relationship, cuckolding can become a threat.

                                                                          • #32566
                                                                            Anonymous

                                                                              Thank you Luvr. I appreciate your response and guidance. I never thought about pride in my journey. I was the typical male, cocksure, married, the husband and man of the house, living the dream, as they say. That is until my first wife unknowingly cuckolded me by having sex with another man. It crushed my pride and male ego to think she sought the sexual satisfaction of another man. Who would have thought after getting remarried that I would seek out the very lifestyle that emotionally scarred me and end that marriage. But something awoken in me, whether true sexual desire or the feeling I was not good enough sexually. Was I testing myself or trying to prove I was not good enough satisfy a woman? Was I trying to relive the experience with my first wife but this time knowing of her infidelity and accepting it?
                                                                              The journey has been hard, for sure, and I am learning about myself every day. But I know I love my wife and I want to see her pleasured. I am doing that right, letting my wife have sexually pleasure? So yes I can see pride as something I should embrace.

                                                                        • #32510
                                                                          stonemtncouple

                                                                            Yes Id say, if we have to label our kinks, that your a Stag more than a Cuckold now. Many swinging couples enjoy MFM threesomes and say they are just swingers.

                                                                            In my opinion there is “consensual non-monogamy“ where a married couple communicates with each other and one partner or both fucks others with the consent and knowledge of everyone involved. Within non-monogamy is every imaginable kink and fetish.

                                                                            Cuckolding to me is a clearly defined kink where the husband receives pleasure from being denied sex with his wife while she has sex with other men. I think there has to be some form of sexual denial that the husband experiences and enjoys for it to be labeled Cuckolding. Just my opinion.

                                                                            • #32540
                                                                              Anonymous

                                                                                You could be correct about what true cuckolding is, but I gather there are many forms of cuckolding. Yes I still get to fuck my wife, but he always goes first, he initiates the sex act, he cums first. I have sucked his cock, he has never sucked me even though he has briefly touch me. They did have sex without me around. I am just learning about the life of cuckolding.

                                                                            • #32544
                                                                              stonemtncouple

                                                                                Thanks for sharing your story! Have fun! Thats what its all about for me anyway.

                                                                              • #32828
                                                                                stonemtncouple

                                                                                  Hello Dan,
                                                                                  I have a question for you.
                                                                                  Do you clean up your wife’s pussy after her lover cums in her?

                                                                                  I cleaned up my wife’s “cream pied pussy” for the first time a few months ago after her Bull filled her up. I loved it! And was wondering if you do this ?

                                                                                  • #32858
                                                                                    Anonymous

                                                                                      I have gone down on my wife after her ex fucked and came in her cunt. I have done that when I have come in her as well so I am use to licking cum out of her cunt.

                                                                                  • #32922
                                                                                    Anonymous

                                                                                      I did not join this site with the intent to share sex stories, rather to seek guidance, advice and a place to express my emotions as I thought about, acted on and pursued this lifestyle as a cuckold. However, I want to share this. With this lock down, stay at home situation we are all going through, my wife’s kids have been staying here all the time with us. My kids are with their mom and her husband. So with a house full of kids, the only sex we have been having is the marital kid. And since the situation I described about my wife and her ex, their time together, his comments about wanting to be married to her again or at least putting another baby in her, my conversation with him and ultimately the conversation my wife and I had about all of this, there has been no sex between him and my wife.
                                                                                      This morning my wife and I went out to the grocery store, kids left at home. I guess I had been thinking about this as I suggested to my wife as we were heading to the store that we should stop by his place. (There was obviously no need to explain why we would stop by.) I think I could tell my wife was excited by the prospect even though she was trying to be cool about it. If you want she said. It can be a surprise I said. Oh yes, her nipples were definitely hard when I glanced over at her and that made me hard.
                                                                                      So we arrived at his place. Unless he was running an errand he would be home and his car was there. I had her knock and I could tell he was confused, surprised, as he looked at her and then me and I could tell he looked to see if his kids were with us.
                                                                                      Where are the kids he asked. We explained they were home and we were going to the grocery store.
                                                                                      It is amazing how some situations do not need any conversation or discussion to know where they are heading.
                                                                                      We entered his house and I closed the door as they were kissing each other, his hands on her ass.

                                                                                      He grabbed her hand and lead her to the bedroom. I followed. Clothes were shed, cocks were hard, her nipples erect. I watched as he sat my wife on the edge of the bed and fed her his cock. She was sucking his cock, his hands in her hair, guiding her head onto his cock. I was rock hard, he looked over at me and smiled. Then pushing her back on the bed he got on his knees spreading her legs and went down on her. I could hear his tongue licking her, flicking it against her clit. Her body bucking, her back arching, moaning. I knew she missed sex with him. That pang of jealousy hit for a moment, but I realized my place and watched, stroking my cock.

                                                                                      Not long, he was straddled on top of her, his muscular hairy legs spreading her legs about. I could see that big thick cock was hard, that big head fully engorged and watched as he positioned his cock head between her cunt lips and penetrated her. She cried out, not from lack of sex, as we had fucked the night before, but from his shear size and the force of his cock diving deep inside of her. He moved slowly in her, but going deep with each penetration. They were both lost in the fucking. I am not even sure at that moment either knew I was there, naked and stroking my hard cock, horny as hell.
                                                                                      But eventually he looked at me and he told me to kiss her. At first I was frozen, not sure I heard correctly. But I went over to the bed and leaned down and kissed my wife while he fucked her. Instinctively I was fondling her tits, squeezing her nipples. I could feel the power of his thrusting in her body as my hands were fondling her tits. Suddenly I felt one of his hands on my shoulder and I realized he was cumming, he was grabbing onto me as he groaned and shot his cum in my wife’s cunt. And I could hear my wife cumming.
                                                                                      When he finally rolled off my wife and looked up at me, I knew he wanted me to take his place. I got on top of my wife and entered her fucking wet, wide open cunt. I fucked her, and when I felt his hand on my ass, I immediately shot my load. It was incredible to feel his hands on me, first when he was cumming, as if he made me part of his orgasm and again when he put his hand on my ass as I was fucking her and keeping it there as I came.
                                                                                      He thanked us for the surprise, said he missed being with us as we left to go do what we started out doing, going to the grocery store.
                                                                                      My wife was fucked by her ex, his cum in her, along with mine, as we drove to the store. Before we got out of the car my wife told me she loved me and loved the surprise, leaned over and kissed me. I would say everyone was happy today.

                                                                                    • #32969
                                                                                      stonemtncouple

                                                                                        Great stories! Thanks for sharing them! Very erotic. We enjoy MFM. Its one of our favorite activities.

                                                                                      • #34180
                                                                                        Todd Hunter

                                                                                          Damn… I found this very difficult and uncomfortable to read. I understand your motivations (at least, I think I do) but for me, the thought of risking my marriage and watching the wife I adore and love potentially walking out of my life forever leaves me feeling indescribably sad. I hope you find what you’re looking for me but it almost sounds like you’re working through issues that are in some ways unconnected with cuckolding as such.

                                                                                          Everyone needs to look after their emotional well being and the path you’re on seems to sail very close to total heartbreak for you and your wife…. not to mention her ex’s feelings. I firmly believe that cuckolding should be about pleasure and finding fulfillment for all parties involved.

                                                                                          Look after yourself and I hope things resolve themselves in a positive way.

                                                                                          • #34186
                                                                                            Anonymous

                                                                                              I guess you could say I am fucked up. What happened to me in my first marriage really devastated me. You think you have a great marriage, a loving beautiful wife, a beautiful family. You work hard for your family, take care of them, love them, make love to your wife thinking it is incredible. Then you find out your wife is fucking another man, has been for almost two years and you realize how fucking stupid you have been, totally ignoring any signs of infidelity (yes when I looked back I could see them clearly but not then). Then to have your wife lie to you about a chronic yeast infection that went on for months, to find out it was a lie to prevent me from having sex with her, so she could stop taking the pill, so that he could knock her up. Coming home that day, finding the kids not home, and my wife telling me she was pregnant and it was not my kid. It destroyed my world. And then she left me, divorced me. I felt that someone had taken my manhood away.

                                                                                              Yes I feel in love again, got married, but that first experience would not let me alone. So I chose to relive it under my terms. Yes that is fucked up. I have thought about it, why was I pursuing it and I think there are many reasons why.
                                                                                              Maybe I really wanted my wife to tell me no when I suggested bringing another man into our bed. At first she did say no, but yes I was somewhat persistent. When she said yes, my arousal went high but I also felt angry. Was I not good enough? If you have read my posts you know what I have experienced, the highs and the lows.

                                                                                              I appreciate your concerns for me, they are accurate. I am possibly risking this marriage. I have thought about that, maybe it is what I think I deserve. I know i still love my first wife, as much as I hate her and him. I question what I would do if she came back to me, wanted to be with me. Yes fucked up again.

                                                                                              But for now, things seem good. I really like her ex, maybe it is acceptance, but he is a nice guy. And sex of any kind makes people closer. I am trying to assert myself more into the arrangement, not that I have stopped being the submissive male in this relationship since sexually it seems I like that role. But making sure I have more involvement, more say in what is going on.

                                                                                              But like I say above, I really appreciate your comments, concerns and well wishes.

                                                                                          • #32767
                                                                                            Anonymous

                                                                                              I understand what you and your wife are saying. Going down this path is not easy and it does question the strength of a marriage. I assume some couples are comfortable with how a cuckolding situation progresses, with the husband becoming more a life companion without the sex. I assume there can be genuine love between the husband and wife, with a life commitment, but no sexual intimacy between them. That is between the wife and her lover. I do not personally understand that and do not want that in my marriage.
                                                                                              We all have our kinks when it comes to sex, some more vanilla than others and some intense that others may or would question.
                                                                                              If my first wife had not cheated on me I would never have pursued or even thought about this lifestyle. Or if I never found out she was fucking another guy. I imagine there are wives who have fucked other men and the husbands have never found out. And yes I imagine some of those husbands are unknowingly raising another man’s kid.
                                                                                              We all have to live with what we create or live in ignorance of reality.
                                                                                              I pursued this because I needed to see another man fuck my wife, since I was totally in the dark about my first wife’s sexual activity with another man. Yes I know that thinking can be viewed as fucked up. I guess I was fucked up, still fucked up, by my experience with my first wife.
                                                                                              But here we are, I am a cuckold, another man fucks my new wife. It has been difficult at times. Sexually it has been satisfying, watching them fucking, seeing them both naked. And though I never thought I would want to or could even perform in front of another person,especially a guy, I love fucking my wife with him there.
                                                                                              I will not give up sex with my wife. I can play second fiddle to him sexually, let him be the “alpha” male.
                                                                                              There is some kind of connection between the three of us, emotional, sexually. Because there is history with her ex, kids, their marital sex life, there seems to be a natural bond between the three of us.
                                                                                              Yes there are moments of doubt, anguish, confusion, jealousy on my part. But I feel I have reached some point of acceptance. Time will tell where this all goes.

                                                                                            • #32820
                                                                                              Anonymous

                                                                                                Thanks, it has its moments of pure pleasure and then self-doubt, but I am working through it.

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