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Hi Jezz Thanks for the reply. I do like the psychology of needs ideas. I was referring to needs in a Freudian sort of way. Those feelings, desires and so on which lurk in the unconscious and do not get expressed normally. They are generally thought of as the drives which push us to do things one of which may be procreation. I don’t think all the needs which lurk there have been fully explored. A need can externalize differently to the internal need. However though the need , according to Freud, anyhow if not expressed can lead to difficulties for the individual. These may not present as uncontrolled difficulties, they may just be mere agitation. It is the sort of get up and go which gets us out of bed in the morning. A deep desire for security could be expressed as a need to work all the time, the classic workaholic. It is likely though that we all possess the same unconscious needs but we have learned to express them differently, in classic learned behaviour style. This is possibly where men and women differ dramatically. Men have an on going need to procreate. We have learned however to express this in many ways. We may crave financial success with which we buy the toys cars etc. which we believe will attract the women. Often we just stop there and just want cars and other male playthings as or outlet as we have learned to do that. Women most likely have a need deep inside to become mothers, which requires attracting the appropriate fathers. Women have learned to dress in particular ways not always sexually often quite plain but the end product may be the same as in to be attractive in a way they feel appropriate to attract the appropriate father. I am way out on this one but just a suggestion. I have noticed form my own wife and others around her that the female desire in this area is less logical and more driven. Back to cuckolding. Satisfying internal unconscious desires is hugely satisfying mainly because such satisfaction rarely happens. The drive and desire to satisfy our needs and the fact they may never be fully satisfied could well be the dynamic which drives our competitive society. Men will strive for the goodies the wealth etc. If it were satisfied easily the men may well just stop and lie down. The harsher the environment the bigger the strive necessary. In our western society most of our needs are satisfied as per Maslows hierarchy of needs i.e hunger thirst etc. This leaves our need to procreate which actually may have been easier in primitive societies. The bull therefore may have a huge desire to procreate and have the tools to do it with. He can of course repress this as he ma have a lady friend anyhow , but he may need to spread his seed further. The bull has learned the huge tension relief he gets when seeding a strange woman and the extreme satisfaction which flows for that. Not so much the raw pleasure but the satisfaction. The cuckoldress may be a normal woman, but as a normal woman she is extremely satisfied by being seeded, it is a desire for her. This leaves the cuckold. I believe, applying this theory the cuckold strangely lacks drive and tension. Left to his own devices he would be a calm contended individual who may achieve little as he lacks the need to satisfy internal drives. Evolutionists may claim he is more advanced he is beyond such desires, he is ready for the Starship Enterprise ………………. However he needs drive so he creates it he creates jealousy lust all that in himself until he is never satisfied. A good cuckold could use this drive to succeed in other things ……….. but beware ………….. he could collapse into a useless masturbating sex addict Food for thought …..
