Re: Is there something I am not getting

Hi Jezz and thank you again. It is good, for a while anyhow, to take the debate away from a discussion in erotic language. We may end up at a dead end as we may in fact be discussing issues which thousands of years of both religious and secular thought has been unable to unravel., not to mention political. Personally I have narrowed some of it down to needs as there could, I believe, not be a large number of these. I say this as the conception that the unconscious could hold a huge amount of needs seems impossible as they are related to us not in language but in feelings. In fact there may only be three the need for food and water and the need to procreate. Some may say only two, the need to survive and the need tp procreate. Lets take a female for example and lets presume two basic needs survival and procreation. The woman needs to provide survival not only for herself but her offspring also. Initially this is just represented as a desire to have sex and a need for safety. It is how these feelings once popped out of the unconscious are translated which matters. The unconscious will provide signals which will create feelings when approached by a male who is sending out the signals. This is at the basic level. In our complex world an intelligent woman has most likely learned how to translate the feeling of safety and attraction on to a suitable partner who may display the correct financial status. Indeed some women are attracted to men who are corporate warriors but maybe do not display huge biological advantage. In my theory classical bull type cuckolding is an opportunity for a woman to let herself go with her biological instincts which are most likely stronger and more directly interpreted. In men I believe the same two basic instincts exist survival and procreation. Men again, I believe, interpret the procreation biological signal as on in which they are driven to satisfy the female’s need for protection. They want o be a female’s protector or perhaps a protector to a number of females. Protecting the female insures seeding and transportation of the genes. I would take this further and state I do not believe a male can be a protector of a lot of females naturally but most males could protect one even in the wild. This is given that aggression for aggressions sake would not be found in a natural habitat. Protection is simply keeping her safe helping her feed assistance with the children and so on. This is cemented by bonding chemicals which we know exist. The cuckold is still a problem………………………. there seems to be no scientific biological basis for his part in natural life. I would make a wild suggestion, and having been cuckolded and reacted to it, I have some experience. It seems a lot of cuckolds have actually been very good providers, they provide and keep on providing long after the need has been satisfied. In fact they get into providing as a mainstream activity. Either this is because they are married to women who are biologically imbalanced to in that the woman can find better endowed more attractive males and they fear this , or their provision activity and desire to do so has been harnessed to employers or business services to the point where all they do is provide. The hotwife is born………. The overprovided wife has everything she needs to attract males and little else to do. The cuckold is to busy providing to give time to his sex life. Eventually the cuckold needs stimulation sexually and he needs to lust more just to get his sexuality going. Cuckolding pulls him back into the biological selection game. He her and the bull are now playing with nature not reacting to it naturally. they are attempting to harness nature for their own pleasures. History warns us that such attempts can create great good and great evil. We have harnessed the power of antibiotics but have also unleashed the atomc bomb. Nature is strong and unpredictable. To play this game we need great and powerful ritual. I have succeeded in ending the theme where I started in that all this has been tried before it used to be called religion then humanism and various other isms all attempts to harness human nature and predict where it would go. Marriage after all was just a good old ritually religious based provider for life scheme with huge penalties for straying and massive social support. If we in the cuckolding community believe we can do better we need to ritualise and set rules. Maybe such things as only one bull at a time perhaps time limits, check out time for say three months and so on. I welcome a debate on this……………..